Octave presentation
David Bateman
David.Bateman at motorola.com
Wed Nov 5 04:02:03 CST 2008
Jaroslav Hajek wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 10:09 AM, David Bateman
> <David.Bateman at motorola.com> wrote:
>
>> Julius Smith wrote:
>>
>>> At 06:13 PM 11/4/2008, David Bateman wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'll believe the R/S vs Octave/Matlab thing when Cleve Moler contributes
>>>> to Octave..
>>>>
>>> That would be unlikely at this point since Cleve Moler is "chairman
>>> and chief scientist" at The Mathworks:
>>> <http://www.mathworks.com/company/aboutus/founders/clevemoler.html>
>>>
>> That was kind of my point.. The founder of S is a contributor to R and
>> the same can't be said for Matlab/Octave.
>>
>>
>
> Yes, we have a tougher position :) I sometimes wonder whether
> Mathworks views Octave as a competition.
> I guess not. Yet, at the same time, my intended talk about Octave at
> the TCP'08 conference in Prague (organized by local Matlab reseller
> and quite Matlab-centric) has been disapproved by the international
> comittee, of which C. Moler is a chairman. (The organizer's reply
> seemed to carry a tone of surprise, suggesting that not approving a
> contribution is not really common). Yes they offered me a poster
> session but I don't have time for making posters now. Anyway, next
> year I'm going to try again just for the fun of it.
>
> cheer
Octave inevitably is competition Mathworks... They choose to ignore
Octave for now with the specious argument that experience with octave
prepares the user for a much better experience with Matlab.... Sure that
might be true now (though less and less true as time goes on), once the
users themselves realize their own contributions make Octave better a
certain point will pass that Octave will be "good enough" for a larger
and larger group of users, and that momentum will make the improvement
in Octave exponential.. We are really getting to that point now in my
opinion, and so soon Mathworks won't be able to ignore Octave. I'd say
their reaction, based on past experience might be something like their
lawsuits against COMSOL. That is
http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-txedce/case_no-6:2006cv00334/case_id-97908/
for the patent case and
http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-txedce/case_no-6:2006cv00335/case_id-97909/
for the copyright case. Though who they can sue will be interesting to
see and the backlash against a company that tries to sue volonteers
contributing to the public good without profit for themselves will be
interesting to see as well.
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