Spyware in Octave

David Bateman David.Bateman at motorola.com
Fri Sep 19 02:34:30 CDT 2008


Rob Mahurin wrote:
> I agree the most likely explanation is a false detection.  But I  
> haven't seen in this discussion any way to verify that
>
> 	1. the octave-forge installer is the same file uploaded in May  
> (Bruce installed his version a week or so after the upload)
>
> 	2. the "suspicious" binaries are the same binaries carried by the  
> installer
>
> If both of these are true, and the false detection is on a file from  
> the Octave project, it would be good PR to try and avoid the problem  
> in the windows release of 3.0.2.
>   

This all comes down to a question of trust, and in the end you have to 
trust someone.. Imagine that we put the MD5 sum of the binary on the 
octave-forge pages so that they might be check. In fact for the 
octave-forge source packages such a file already exists in

http://octave.sourceforge.net/packages.md5

This file existings mainly to identify is a package release is newer 
than the version you already have installed and was suppose to be part 
of an eventual implementation of a "pkg upgrade" command.

So adding the binaries to this file would probably make sense. However, 
the website and the above file are both hosted by sourceforge. The 
binary is as well. Therefore saying that the binary is the same as 
uploaded at such and such a date as the MD5 sum agrees is problematic as 
someone who is able to alter the binary is also capable of altering the 
webpage or file with the MD5 sums as well.

So yes it gives a bit more protection. However that protection is 
largely illusory. If it makes people happier then sure why no publish 
the MD5 sums..

Regards
David

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